Upper back and shoulder

Prone Y, T and W: how to do it and when it helps

In short

Prone Y, T and W are three lifts done lying face down: you raise the arms into the shape of each letter, thumbs up, by drawing the shoulder blades back and down, then lower slowly. Each letter targets a different part of the muscles around the shoulder blade, so physical therapists use the series for shoulder impingement, swimmers and others who need shoulder blade endurance. This guide is general education; a therapist who examines you chooses which letters, what position and how many.

Last updated By the Monon Therapy Collective editorial team

Main muscles
Lower and middle trapezius, rhomboids, rotator cuff
Position
Face down on a bench, floor or incline
Equipment
None to start; very light weights later
Often used for
Shoulder impingement, swimmers, upper back weakness

Which muscles do the Y, the T and the W each target?

Each letter shifts the emphasis to a different part of the muscles that control the shoulder blade. The table summarizes the usual focus of each and the mistake people tend to make with it.

LetterArm positionMain focusCommon mistake
YOverhead at an angle, thumbs upLower trapeziusShrugging the shoulders toward the ears
TStraight out to the sides, thumbs upMiddle trapezius and rhomboidsLifting the arms too high and arching the back
WElbows bent and tucked, forearms rotating upRhomboids and rotator cuffPinching the shoulder blades too hard

Why are prone Y, T and W popular with swimmers and overhead athletes?

They train the muscles that hold the shoulder blade steady during repeated overhead movement, which is the core demand of swimming, volleyball and throwing. Fatigue in those muscles can change how the shoulder moves late in a long session.

Swimmers in particular repeat the overhead stroke thousands of times a week, so endurance matters as much as strength. The physical therapy for swimmers page covers the other shoulder problems swimmers tend to bring in. These lifts are also common for people with shoulder impingement.

Bench, floor or exercise ball: where should I do Y, T and W lifts?

A flat or slightly inclined bench is the most common choice because the arms can start from a hanging position and move through a bigger range. On the floor, the range is smaller, which can actually help early on.

An exercise ball adds a balance challenge, and an incline bench takes pressure off the neck and lower back. If your low back aches when lying flat on your stomach, a pillow under the hips often helps. For hands-on coaching, request a therapist through the shoulder assessment questionnaire.

Common Y, T and W mistakes

The biggest mistake is lifting the arms with the neck and upper shoulders instead of the shoulder blades. Smaller, cleaner lifts are better than high ones.

  • Lifting the head and craning the neck.
  • Shrugging toward the ears, especially in the Y.
  • Arching the low back to lift the arms higher.
  • Using weights before body weight is easy.
  • Rushing through the letters without lowering slowly.

Making Y, T and W easier or harder

Start with no weight on the floor or an incline; progress to a flat bench, then a light weight, then longer holds.

  • Easier: do only the W, which tends to be the easiest letter.
  • Easier: an incline bench or pillow under the chest.
  • Standard: all three letters, body weight only, on a flat bench.
  • Harder: hold each lift for a few seconds.
  • Harder: very light dumbbells, often a pound or two.
  • Harder still: perform the letters on an exercise ball.

Prone Y, T and W, step by step

A bench lets the arms hang freely; on the floor, the range is smaller but the steps are the same.

  1. Lie face down

    Lie on a bench or the floor with your forehead on a folded towel and your chin gently tucked. Let the arms hang or rest beside your head.

  2. Lift the Y

    Reach the arms overhead at an angle, thumbs up, and lift them a few inches by drawing the shoulder blades down and back. Lower slowly.

  3. Lift the T

    Move the arms straight out to the sides, thumbs up, and lift by squeezing the shoulder blades together. Lower slowly.

  4. Lift the W

    Bend the elbows and tuck them toward your ribs, then squeeze the shoulder blades together and down while rotating the forearms upward. Lower slowly.

  5. Rest and repeat

    Breathe out on each lift and rest between letters. Your therapist decides the order, sets and repetitions.

Stop and see someone if...

  • You feel sharp pain in the shoulder or between the shoulder blades.
  • Numbness or tingling runs down the arm.
  • One shoulder blade sticks out noticeably, a sign called winged scapula.
  • Pain between the shoulder blades comes with chest pain or shortness of breath: call 911.
  • The ache between the shoulder blades is stronger the morning after a session.

If you think it is an emergency, call 911.

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Prone Y, T and W: questions

Should I hold weights for Y, T and W raises?

Only once body-weight lifts are easy and clean. Even then, very light weights are usually enough.

Why can I barely lift my arms in the Y position?

The lower trapezius is often the weakest of these muscles, and the Y works it at a long lever. That is normal at first.

Do I have to do all three letters?

Not necessarily. Your therapist may pick one or two based on what they find, and add others later.

Is it normal for my low back to ache during these?

Some people feel it when lying flat on the stomach. A pillow under the hips or an incline bench usually helps; see the mid-back pain page if upper back pain is your main problem.

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